Posts by Suzis Ghost

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Suzi Mayhem Outdoes John Cleese

by AlanF in

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a critique of suzi mayhem's theory of god .

i thought, when suzi first posted this, that it was a joke something like john cleese's classic "brontosaurus theory" skit in a monty python episode.

but mr. "dark clouds" has sort of asked me to critique it as if it were a serious theory, so here goes.. i'll address this to suzi, but suzi dear, don't take this too seriously.

Suzis Ghost

Six Of Nine,

When I said "fair use is fair use" i didn't make myself clear. Here's a little tutorial for you, see if you can keep up with it. This is not a matter of fair use, this is COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.
Had Alan come along and said, "Hey, can I download your pic to my server and display it to the world as long as I put a link back to your site?" and IF I had said "sure" THAT is fair use. AND IF HE ALTERS THE IMAGE so that it is UNRECOGNIZABLE, it's fair use. HE DID NOT ALTER THE IMAGE, NOR DID HE ASK TO DISPLAY MY IMAGE ON HIS SITE.
On MY site, where the pic is located, on MY server, and with MY image, it states, very clearly, NO PHOTOS MAY BE USED WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF SMILING GOTH PRODUCTIONS
VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED.

copyright 1998-2000
MODEL: SUZI M.

So... ummm. Six? What part of that lil info bit is not being understood by YOU? The pic is OF ME. It's on MY SITE.
Alan DOWNLOADED (that would mean he COPIED it from MY SITE TO HIS) and used it on HIS SITE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. All I'm asking is that it be taken OFF of his site.
If he wants to still use my pic, he can use the link I had already used which goes to MY SITE. I'm not starting trouble. I'm stating what I don't like before it gets out of hand.
So my suggestion to you, Six, is to respectfully sit in the corner til the adults ask you a question.

Suzi

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Suzi Mayhem Outdoes John Cleese

by AlanF in

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a critique of suzi mayhem's theory of god .

i thought, when suzi first posted this, that it was a joke something like john cleese's classic "brontosaurus theory" skit in a monty python episode.

but mr. "dark clouds" has sort of asked me to critique it as if it were a serious theory, so here goes.. i'll address this to suzi, but suzi dear, don't take this too seriously.

Suzis Ghost

Alan,

Ummmm... you can have the children, as long as you give birth to them and only if you keep them and can explain the humor of a higher power that created the monstrosities to the unforgiving society. :)
I just hate having to calm down an angry mob with torches. :)

Loved the pic, by the way.. although disturbing and frightening in more ways than ten...
especially when you don't ask permission to rip MY pic off MY site and use it on YOUR site with no credit given.. That's called a copyright infringement, by the way... Or did you miss the copyright notice in large red letters printed on every site page that says you can in no way take the images herein for use without the express permission of Smiling Goth Productions/ Suzi M.

I do request that you ask permission BEFORE you take my pics from my site and load them onto yours. Putting a simple link to the pic on my site is one thing, but downloading my pic and displaying it on your server withouth my permission is something else. It's infringement.

Fair use is fair use. And I do request that if you want to use my pic, then please use the link provided in my post where it uses the pics from my site. Please take the downloaded image of me off your server. I asked nicely.

Thanks,

Suzi

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In the name of belated wisdom

by Kent in

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if we take a critical view on the last weeks events on this board, there is maybe a thing or two to consider.

the board has seen a kind of war, and sarcasms and caustic remarks have been more the rule than the exception in some threads.

usually these ends up adding something positive to the community or the forum where the war raged, and its much like a thunderstorm.

Suzis Ghost

Tina,

I feel we at SGP owe you an apology. Chuck was a bit harsh in his words to you, and I just read them now. Let me state, for the record that he was NOT authorized to make such blatant accusations, nor was he given the personal freedom as per his contract to make personal judgement/attacks on anyone without express permission from the senior staff. He did NOT speak for the site, me, or any of the other members here, although we do feel that in his roundabout way had a case. Maybe he could have used better terms to get his point across.

Btw, nice new pic. :) No harm done.

Suzi who is not chuck, and who is not responsible for his allegations or for the Cupie Doll

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Suzi Mayhem Outdoes John Cleese

by AlanF in

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a critique of suzi mayhem's theory of god .

i thought, when suzi first posted this, that it was a joke something like john cleese's classic "brontosaurus theory" skit in a monty python episode.

but mr. "dark clouds" has sort of asked me to critique it as if it were a serious theory, so here goes.. i'll address this to suzi, but suzi dear, don't take this too seriously.

Suzis Ghost

Alan,

I was using this thread as an example of some of the "jokes" made about me. Thanks for proving my point yet again.

As to the Physics profs, HON, I guess you don't realise I'm an edumacated woman.. ;)

There was a case brought up on another thread about why I was such a bitch... well... now I guess we all know why I'm just slightly adversarial when someone posts to me..but I'm woman enough to say, 'hey, no sir, I did not like that'. and at least make an attempt to fend for myself... A damsel in distress (or is it estrus?)
I am not...

Again, thanks for being that ever so charming fella that you are and supporting yet another one of my arguments by demonstration. SMOOOCHIES!!! You keep this up and they're gonna start thinking we're married, for gawd's sake! And WHAT will Chuck say??? Quick! Hide, before he gets in the room and reads this!!! ;)

Suzi
Who is not Bugs Bunny, but when dealing with Alan, often feels like the rascally rabbit. :) And who sez I can't appreciate a GOOD joke (I emphasize the word GOOD, since it seems the humor here is more akin to the bad humor of a christmas dinner with my mother's side of the family)

For the love... IS IT ICE YET???!!!

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Suzi Mayhem Outdoes John Cleese

by AlanF in

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friends

a critique of suzi mayhem's theory of god .

i thought, when suzi first posted this, that it was a joke something like john cleese's classic "brontosaurus theory" skit in a monty python episode.

but mr. "dark clouds" has sort of asked me to critique it as if it were a serious theory, so here goes.. i'll address this to suzi, but suzi dear, don't take this too seriously.

Suzis Ghost

Tina, and I guess Roaming Feline, to name a few who cried out "Fowl!"

This is the thread that started a lot of the animosity. Where were all the do-gooders when this was posted? Chuck came to my defense, and we got ganged up on. I thank the few who attempted to make it a little bit more laughable with pictures of John cleese (believe me, I love the man)

But can you honestly tell me that our resident "scholars" and "luminaries" had GOOD intentions when this started?
Poking fun is one thing, starting this entire thread with my user name on it in an attempt to embarass me, well, that's just cruel and mean-spirited. Especially since my oh-so-stupid theory was accepted by the Physics doctors at NYU and I was given the pat on the back treatment by those who have proof of scholarliness, instead of just self-inflicted beliefs of scholarliness.

I hold no grudges any longer (although at the time I will admit it, I was quite a bit upset, I LET IT GO til now. I'm using this to prove a point more than anything), and am now amused by Alan's novellas and JanH's incessant rants, my point is, I accepted them after I realized that their behaviour wasn't intentional.. some people are just born that way.

Sooo.. after all of this, proof in front of you just how mean some folks can be here, kind of makes minor teasing look a lil pale in comparison.

Hopefully my point came across loud and clear. I know how fuzzy my thinking can be sometimes.. lol.

Suzi

And for the last time, I AM NOT CHUCK, fight whatever battles you have with HIM, and don't take it out on me, thanks.
If you need MORE proof, here ya go, here's me:

For the love... IS IT ICE YET???!!!

37

A Somewhat Surprising Letter

by JanH in

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commentary press.

box 43532. atlanta, ga 30336-0532.

770/949-4947; fax 770/949-5601; e,mail: [email protected].

Suzis Ghost

Larc,

SIGH. I thought we had cleared this one up, but seems not with you. I AM NOT DARK CLOUDS. He's my LIVE-IN BOYFRIEND.
_I_-- SUZI-- am the owner/webmistress/el presidente of my website. DC writes there when he gets around to not posting to this place... geez.
I already had my account deleted once, I don't much appreciate that, and I would thank you to not try to keep the joke going about me being Chuck. That being said, yes, I DO have some knowledge about reimbursing the artists/writers/photographers/programmers on my site. It's mostly by trade, and they sign a contract stating specifically that they give me permission to use their work. That, and since they aren't known, they don't have agents/publishers, so the legal issues are a lot easier.

The programmers can use me as a reference if needed, and since I'm technically a dot com, not of the huge corporate variety, but nonetheless, a dot com (who I'm proud to say, lasted through the dot com bankruptcy times), it's good practice. And they get to use my webspace for demo stuff.

I learned about fair use laws when I was getting my masters degree, so I still have a list of websites, etc. where fair use laws are given for various forms of media (including writing, art, photography, multimedia including Flash presentations, AVI and MOV files, movie clips, etc.)
I went through a lot of BS when I started the site. I've had people use my pictures on their porn sites and without permission, which is in direct violation of copyright AND fair use guidelines. Especially since I try to keep everything as safe for enlightened family viewing as possible.

A quick run-down of loopholes for copyright issues. (Believe me, there's a million of em)

If you use a musical piece, and it's for educational purposes and not within public domain (classical music is considered public), you are allowed to sample up to 30 seconds of a song, or no more than 35% of the entire musical piece.
How to get around that: sample it, and change it to something more akin to your liking. As long as it's not recognizable as the original sample, it's considered a new work.

If you use images, you need permission from the photographer and the model, unless the photographer has sole ownership and a release form from the model/legal guardian.
How to get around it: warp the picture in some way. I believe it's something like three filtered effects applied to an image so that it is markedly different from the original, it's considered a new work.

Writing... that's a lot trickier. If the author does not have an international copyright, and you're in another country other than where the author is writing, then technically it's alright to use the work, as long as you have permission/give credit to the author and the work. It was due to an international copyright clause that a copy of Nosferatu (the Murnau version of 1922) survived being destroyed. (briefly: a relative of Bram Stoker was trying to claim that the movie was a form of plaigerism, and that because no permission/royalties had been exchanged, every copy of the movie in Europe was to be destroyed. The loophole was that inernational copyright law had never been applied for by Stoker, so technically the international copyright was up for grabs, and Nosferatu was saved in America from being wiped out.)
OK.. getting back. Writing is harder to use without signed documentation to cover your ass. That's the unfortunate truth. I explain that to my writers and to anyone who submits any form of art/writing to my site. If I choose to use their work, it's automatically giving me permission with no future objections, to use it as I see fit. Internet laws are finally starting to catch up with copyright laws, but it's honestly safer to be "safe" and cover your ass. When a publishing company views a site with quotes being used, they view the site as a total work, not page by page. You may have used a quote per page, but if the book is only 10 pages long and your site is ten pages total, it's an infringment.
Ultimately, if you have permission, even if the author says it's OK, get it in writing, and use proper quoting technique to give credit, combined with a link back to the author's personal site.

So endeth my ten cents worth. Hope it helped.
When you go to a copyright site, with info, make sure to check the last time it was updated to be sure you're getting the most current copyright laws, especially since just in the two years it took me to get my masters, the laws changed significantly.

Suzi-- who isn't Chuck

Because I could not stop for Death
He kindly stopped and took me out to lunch.

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A Somewhat Surprising Letter

by JanH in

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commentary press.

box 43532. atlanta, ga 30336-0532.

770/949-4947; fax 770/949-5601; e,mail: [email protected].

Suzis Ghost

Jan,

All kidding aside, and totally serious here. Wow.. ME being serious.. DOH. Mark this day... it doesn't happen too often.

I have experience along these lines. Fair use guidelines are different for each type of media, and vary depending on educational useage and commercial usage. If your site is still up and running, even if you haven't updated it, it's still considered a valid site, and thus you are subject to international and national copyright laws.

Usually you need to go through an author's agent/management/publisher to get said permissions to use a percentage of a work. Too many quotes in one place equals more than the percentage allowed, equals plaigerism. Sorry to even have to use that word. It's icky, especially when you have permissions, etc. straight from the author. It's technically considered duplication after a certain point, and unfortunately the certain point isn't a very forgiving and generous one.

If you want, I can send you some info on international copyright laws, multimedia and fair use guideline sources for national and international permissions, since we go through this at my site with the authors and artists a lot.

Let me know,

Suzi

(Actually trying to help out, so be nice.)

Because I could not stop for Death
He kindly stopped and took me out to lunch.

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My Turn!

by Derrick in

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i request the first ones to read this post, to save this post on your hard drive.

i understand this forum is not moderated, and have carefully worded this post with the utmost consideration for simon.

however, in case gremlins cause it to mysteriously vanish, you can share this post with others who might want to know a little about me.

Suzis Ghost

Rick,

Had you really READ my post, you would have gotten it that my name is spelled SUZI, not Susie. Common mistake, and I can forgive it. :)

What I'm not understanding is why, if you aren't complaining, are you complaining?? (although if I had to actually KEEP every one of JanH's posts, personally, I'd kill myself first..lol, so I guess in that regard, YOU'RE the saint, and I would be complaining too. I'm at least getting PAID while I'm posting..lol)

As to my own web site, well, it actually surprised the hell outta me when it took off.... guess all that coding worked. .:)
I learned an important lesson though, and that is Don't gag anyone... unless they want to be handcuffed and blindfolded too. :)

MWUAH!

Suzi

Because I could not stop for Death
He kindly stopped and took me out to lunch.

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My Turn!

by Derrick in

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friends

i request the first ones to read this post, to save this post on your hard drive.

i understand this forum is not moderated, and have carefully worded this post with the utmost consideration for simon.

however, in case gremlins cause it to mysteriously vanish, you can share this post with others who might want to know a little about me.

Suzis Ghost

Derrick,

I might be misreading your statements, but the impression I'm getting is that you in some way started H20 with the intent of someday getting funding and some sort of messiah status.

When you start something "for the good" and because you believe in it, it shouldn't be to get praise and monetary rewards. I speak from personal experience. I've been running a web site for going on three years now, I feature unknown artists and writers who would not be even looked at because they were considered "too vulgar", "too profane", or "sick". Who was I to judge? My writers have talent. If people get offended, well, it's not like I'm losing sponsors because of it. I started my site because _I_ had been censored, and edited to hell, and for every agent who told me I was too something or other (usually dealing with too much violence or some nonsense like that), I had ten people tell me they loved it, and most importantly THEY GOT THE MESSAGE.

One of those people helped me to start the site, and now it's solely mine. It's a democracy, more or less, because I know it's important to keep up with things, but I never started the site because I expected something from it. I just wanted to give people like me a chance to have their art or writing shown to the rest of the world-- the UNEDITED versions. I expected raw emotion and maybe even a little depravity, but the writing is exceptional.

My site hasn't made a single profit. The money comes out of my pocket. I don't ask for funding. I don't expect funding. I don't even expect a thank you, and I reply to every email I get personally.

The site has grown from 1,000 hits per month mainly just out of the U.S. to over 40,000 hits a month, worldwide. When I get emails now, i'm pleasantly surprised if they say thanks.

My point in all of this is: don't hold ANY expectations, and don't try to silence people because you don't care for what they say. There are those I can't stand on this board, but I wouldn't silence any of them, even after they deleted me.

Soo... I guess had I ever visited your site, I would have been one of the quickly deleted contributors, despite the fact that I actually had a coherent message?

Suzi

Because I could not stop for Death
He kindly stopped and took me out to lunch.

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class distinctions

by teejay in

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a question and then i will allow the reader to reflect or respond.

i do not expect to respond to any posts here.. are there class distinctions on jw.com?.

if so, should those of the "high class" be allowed to run roughshod over the feelings of those deemed "low class at will?".

Suzis Ghost

Teej,

The answer to question 1, is yes, as you've stated. The answer to the second one: depends on which rung of the pecking order you stand on.

I of course say, there shouldn't be a pecking order, because I'm on the ground looking up. Naturally someone on the top of the DB food chain would say "piss off" and/or start insulting threads about me if I wanted to move up a notch.

I haven't used class distinctions, I haven't made reference to my education except for once in a thread only to state that I was more than qualified to back up my position. I won't mention the tarring I took for that one. :) I grinned and bore it, didn't like it, but I dealt with it. Even started a joke thread just to try to point out I could take a joke. I guess there were those who couldn't.

I've seen a lot in my short time here. Can't say I've liked all of what I've witnessed--no pun intended. Ultimately it isn't the pecking order so much as who's getting pecked to death at a given time. For me to post on here is like wearing a chum belt into a shark tank at feeding time. Why do I keep posting? Good question. I guess somewhere, sometime, I'm hoping that people will start acting like an evolved species, and then we can all learn what we have to offer and build on it.

I'm sure the above statements will now be dissected and analyzed and ultimately misconstrued. At least I got to say it, and if it makes sense to one person, then I'm happy.

Ciao fer now.

Suzi

Because I could not stop for Death
He kindly stopped and took me out to lunch.